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Pete Zahut
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Biting my tongue
by Jrjw ini'm really biting my tongue at the moment with a certain witness.
he said he hates how the churches have lied to people, misled them, controlled them, got money out of them.
gouge can he noht see the wts has done that, i really wanted to say something so badly.
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Whatever happened to the "written review"?
by pale.emperor indoes anyone know why the written review was stopped?
i relished the half hour silence they'd give you to "write down your answers", time i spend doodling or thinking up cool song lyrics..
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Pete Zahut
"Whatever happened to the "written review"?
This reminds me of how some not so lovingly referred to the written review as the "rotten review". Our Congregation used to pass out these thin boards for you to lean on while you wrote your answers. Most of them had doodles scrawled all over them and things written on them (likely by teenagers) such as "AC/DC sucks Megadeth Rules !!"
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My New Year Present to Everyone
by new boy ini have lived in sedona arizona for over five years.
we own the largest wine tour company here and take out more people to the vineyards in this area then anyone less.
so my new years present to anyone (governing body members excluded) here that reads this thread is 2 free wine tours if you visit sedona.
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Pete Zahut
Former Bethelite who's a big fan of Sedona and the occasional glass of wine. I sat at the Governing Body table with Knorr , Ray and Fred Franz, Greelees , Sydlik and the rest, so I have a tale or two to tell.
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Do you have JW-related dreams (nightmares)?
by compound complex ingreetings, dreamers:.
i guess it's never going away: daytime carryovers of jw-related stuff seeping into my dreams.. the majority of these dreams take place at conventions but with really weird trappings.
last night i dreamed i arrived at the site with no books, no lunch, nothing but my car keys.
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Pete Zahut
As a kid I had Tribulation dreams that involved me frantically trying to figure out how I was going to save my little sisters if the "bad guys" threatened to harm them if I didn't renounce Jehovah.
From time to time I still wake up with my heart pounding after dreaming that I had re-enlisted at Bethel. In the dream I'm at Bethel and realize that for some unknown reason I've stupidly quit my job and signed up to work there. At this point, there's no way to undo what I have done and there's no way to get out of this without bringing shame on myself and my family if I don't stick it out.
It's such a relief to wake up and find out it was all a bad dream. I never knew anyone else had this same dream and it's very telling, that so many of us do.
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CL&M part Jan 4 - annual meeting service report - our outstanding experiences
by loneranger inthis was the first part in the "living as christians" section of the meeting tonight.
speaker had two pioneers on the stage to relate their outstanding experiences for 2017. we have 23 pioneers and over 160 publishers in the hall.
our territory is densely populated with single family houses, apartments and condominiums.
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Pete Zahut
One of the last assemblies I was at there was a very elderly sister on stage talking about her rich experiences as a Pioneer. Her tale was chock full of injuries from falls on the sidewalk, tumbling down stairways, car accidents, dog bites, car troubles and slips on ice because she vigilantly/stupidly went from door to door despite terrible weather conditions. She spoke about how much Jehovah had blessed her and helped her overcome these difficulties.
My Son turned to me and whispered "Either this poor lady is super clumsy...or Jehovah isn't watching out for her at all"
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What could be other alternative names for the Jehovah's Witnesses ?
by Finkelstein inhow about .... the international brotherhood of stupidity.. the righteous zombies club .
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Pete Zahut
Cataclysm Posse
Brotherhood of the Twisted Scriptures
Order of the Unseen Truth
Clan of the Doomsday Hope
Assembly of the Ever Changing Light
Extended Millennium Counsel
Friends of Conditional Love and God's Almighty Wrath. -
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Don't you think that some people are just better off within the org?
by paradiseseeker inthis is my first post, i will introduce myself later.
first of all, i must say that english is not my mother tongue (i'm spanish), so excuse me if i make any mistake.. do you think that some people simply can't cope with being outside the jws?
some of them are too worldlyphobic to be around non-jws, too dependent on a fixed set of rules in order to carry on with their lives, too dependent on the hope of paradise and resurrection, too unable to leave their personal comfort zone within the organization.
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Pete Zahut
Hi Paradiseseeker,
I agree, there are those who'd be lost if they didn't have somewhere like the JW's to go, and they are the scariest and most dangerous of all JW's to be related to or to be at the mercy of, such as in a judicial committee hearing etc.
A lot of people do better when they have a routine or a standard set of behaviors or rules to follow. The trouble is, that after being a JW, they've ruined you for anything else. JW's thoroughly and systematically discredit the whole world and everyone in it and make it nearly impossible to fully fit in anywhere else once you've been part of them.
Anyone who buys into the program fully, not even allowing themselves to consider alternative viewpoints, is the perfect candidate for climbing the ladder of JW success and having dangerous powers over others.
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Introduce myself
by dantoole87 ini'd like share why i went from being a teenager determined to work in full time service for jehovah my entire life, to now being on here commiserating with you all.
i use to be an atheist but i now believe in god.
but i'm not preachy about god.
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Pete Zahut
An incredible and yet not surprising story.
The convoluted tale you told was about your life and the impact the JW's had upon it . As real and painful as it was, when time passes and you step back form it, you will realize that everything that happened to you was much ado about noting...caused by a bunch of nobodies who were taking advantage of your inexperienced and trusting youthfulness and abusing their power.
It's amazing how we once allowed these people to not only influence our lives and intervene in our personal relationships but also allowed them to enforce their man made organizational rules on us as if they had any real authority.
Glad you got out of there and out of that mess. It was all so unnecessary but like so many of us it had to happen in order for your eyes to be opened . Better now than later.
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Prophecy question as hysteria sets in
by Isambard Crater ina load of j.w's in my family and the congregation i attend as a pimo have been saying the end is very close because the anglo american world superpower is clearly still the king of the south, and russia is now clearly king of the north due to persecuting and banning the religion there and seizing property.. i've forgot what the religion used to teach and maybe still does, about the timing of all this king of north + south stuff, the attack on all religion by the u.n and then the attack on j.w's who will be left standing.
i mean, i thought jehovah was going to put it into the u.n's minds to ban or attack all other religions, then the attack on j.w's, but witnesses seem to think the end is so, so close because russia has banned them.. it's sad, as some dubs i know have sold their homes and made other big decisions so they can pioneer in these 'very last of the last days'..
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Pete Zahut
JW's suddenly and mysteriously went silent about the Kings of the north and south prophesy when the Soviet Union dissolved back in 1991. It was as if they were embarrassed that they ever said anything about it...didn't want to talk about it even though the end was "Just around the corner" back then as well.
27 years later they conveniently bring it up again when it suits them even though the original prophesy was that there would be conflict between the two kings themselves rather than between one of the Kings and a group of his subjects.
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Pete Zahut
I was just sitting daydreaming about answering up during a watchtower and exposing one of the lies the wts has stated in the study material and wondering what the reaction would be 😊 has anyone ever done this on their way out??
Sunday Watchtower Study:
Study Conductor: "Question number 8...What is significant about the year 1914?"
(Brother Fading raises hand)
Study Conductor: "Let's hear from Brother Fading please."
Brother Fading : "The other day I had someone at the door show me in an encyclopedia, that the worlds most highly trained and experienced Archaeologists and Historians, who have spent their entire careers on such matters, agree that Jerusalem fell in 587 BCE rather than in 607 BCE.
However we see from our paragraph that early on in the organizations history, the faithful and discrete slave of old, determined that Jerusalem fell 20 years later in 607 BCE. Counting forward from the year 607 rather than from the year 587 that Historians and Archaeologists agree upon, the faithful and discrete slave determined that it was 1914 when Jesus rulership in heaven commenced and marked the beginning of the last days, rather than the year 1894.
We know that although the Governing Body is made up of "unlettered and ordinary men" and who admit to being imperfect, we can still trust that the dates they provide for us in the literature that we study and present to the public, are 100% accurate, 100% of the time."
Study Conductor: "Ahemm.....yes, lets move on to paragraph 9 shall we?"